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OK so the other day I got to a discussion with my mate about the Remake of Evangelion and Evangelion in general. And he seams to be under the impression that the new Evangelion movies are not actually a remake but a sequel. And he does have good arguments backing it.

The idea being that the "Evengelion 1.0 You are not alone" world is the world that Shinji created at the end of "The End of Evangelion". If you think about it it does fit. One of the biggest hints for this is the same red sea seen with what the "The End of Evangelion" ends and "Evangelion 1.0" begins. More to the point, if you remember the original series, then there the sea was blue and in the remake it's red and if you think about the big differences than it does make seance.

But I just do not know, I kinda am convinced, but at the same time... are they really trolling with us? Kinda hard to believe, I would love to give counter arguments, but can't really think of any, because he is claiming that the world that was created by Shinji was almost identical but with some minor differences.

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    I don't have time to write a full answer now (so Jon Lin will probably beat me to it), but *Rebuild* is not a remake, as the story diverges. It may not be a sequel; however, there are many pieces of evidence that point to this conclusion. That said, **there is no canon statement on this**. Make of that what you will. – Cattua Feb 26 '14 at 18:49
  • First we'd have to figure out the original ending. Evangelion has always defied some conventions in this regard, but on a technicality the movies count as sequels, since they are neither remakes nor prequels. – Ocean Aug 09 '21 at 15:25

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It's interpretation.

There's nothing official whether there is a sequel or not. Aside from Kaworu saying weird stuff about "next time" or "this time" (and a weird translation of Kaworu's voice actor mentioning something about "looping" in an interview), all of the other instances (including the large chalk outline) of possible "time looping" or "rebooting the universe" have been explained in-universe or through story-boards in a way unrelated to any sort of sequel, "time looping" or "rebooting". This is not to say such images aren't meant to make people think that, or at the very least, as a reference or a nod to the original series.

  • The seas are red as a result of second impact.
  • The chalk outline is from an accident before second impact.
  • The blood stain on the moon, also from second impact
  • Second impact in this universe occurs chronologically as the same Second impact in the original series (Antarctica expedition, Misato's dad dies, releases of Adam(s))
  • Kaworu saying stuff about "next time" and "this time", unexplained

Kaworu has always been saying weird stuff, even in the original series, or, perhaps he's the time-travelling wizard in this version of Evangelion. It's up to your interpretation, and there's a lot of ways to interpret things, especially since we've been given such all encompassing world changing events like Instrumentality, of which we know next to nothing when it comes to the details or mechanics.

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  • @Blaisorblade third impact hasn't happened yet in Rebuild and the seas are already red – Jon Lin Jul 26 '19 at 18:10
  • You're right (so I deleted my incorrect comment). Maybe the new second impact is somehow the original third impact, but we don't know... – Blaisorblade Jul 27 '19 at 13:16
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This is just from what I read but it may be a Sequel as I read that Evangelion is about cycles and that Rebuild takes place after End of Evangelion where Shinji and Asuka somehow reverse everything to a new cycle. From what I read the evidence to support this is that the red sea is actually all the LCL that was seen at the end of End of Evangelion and that there are outlines of where the Mass Produced Eva's fell

/ End of Evangelion with the red LCL Sea and Mass Produced Eva's End of Evangelion

/ Evangellion 1.x where we see a red sea and a giant's outline Red sea and outline

However, as Eric said there seems to be no canon statement to this, and I read this on the Madman Australia Forums (though I can't remember the exact post).

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It's clearly a sequel. The red sea, the stain on the moon, and what Kaworu said are not just coincidence.

After End of Evangelion, a second chance was given to Shinji by Lilith and he chose that everyone should keep their separate form, therefore the AT field was given back to every person to keep their souls and bodies apart. The story repeats so that they can prevent what already happened.

This isn't my opinion, it's literally what happened.

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I’m only on the second movie rn but I think Asuka knows it’s a time loop because even she said something along the lines of “They’re all the same as last time. Nothing’s changed” so I’m saying it’s a sequel

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One of the reasons that make audiences believe it is a sequel and not a remake are the giant stains on the moon made by collapsing Lilith/Rei in End of Evangelion and present in the first Rebuild movie.

I think you can find main other arguments in the evageeks's counter-argument page about a "literal" sequel theory.

Personally I believe to be large space to interpretation being many things in NGE really ill-defined and not so clearly explained.

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I’m very late to this but the answer to the question ultimately is it’s a remake... i read that it’s just a different version of what happens in the show.... think about it in this instance: The end of evangelion( show) ended with merging with Lilith and giving Shinji the opportunity to choose the way that the world will continue instead of his father because of that conclusion although he decided that he want everyone to die even decided that he wanted things to stay as they were and I just ended up with Asuka and him in the end

With that being said A sequel would not make sense because if all of this is after Shinji saves the world or whatever you wanna call it in the first place everything literally happens again And they fight damn near the same angels just with a few new people it wouldn’t make sense for it to be a continuation just for them to have to do everything all over again

I also have a understanding that the movies are for those who didn’t watch the series because it came out so long ago (1996 i think) and it’s just a better adaptation of the story

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I've been hanging around the wiki.evageeks.org page, specially pages that talk about the new four 'Adams' seen on the Second Impact flashback, and I'm starting to let go of the idea that it is a sequel.

The chalk outline could be one of the Adams that died during Second Impact; as the Key of Nebuchadnezzar that Kaji gives Gendo in the 2.22 takes the place of the Adam Embryo from the Original Series, and Evangelion 13 (just '13', not 'Unit-13') is called an 'Adams' Survivor' by Mari in one scene in 3.33, implying that it was made from one of the four that appeared on during Second Impact. Same with Unit-01 (as opposed to being grown from Lilith) and Mark.06.

What I'm trying to get to, is that the red seas might have been caused by the Adams during the Rebuilds' Second Impact, and the chalk outline by one of the Adams. The red line on the moon is not explained yet.

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