So we have all seen Zoro boast.
Over the 9 mountains and 8 seas... Throughout the world itself... There is nothing I cannot cut.
Now it made me wonder, which mountains and what seas was he referring to?
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1Wow this is a quality question – Callat Aug 25 '17 at 12:06
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Some of Zoro's attacks are named after Buddhism like 36/72/108 Pondo Hou
the 36/72/108 Pondo Hou, is a reference to the 36 passions of Buddhism
So most likely Zoro is referring to the Buddhist legend of Sumeru the central world-mountain in Buddhist cosmology.
I'm not an Buddhism expert but in the Wikipedia article about Sumeru you see a list of 9 mountains and 8 seas, so since Zoro likes Buddhism and Hindu references in his attacks, it's most like Oda made a reference to this.
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Mintri's answer is right, but for the sake of having an in-universe/joke answer:
8 Seas:
- North Blue
- South Blue
- East Blue
- West Blue
- Paradise (Grand line, 1st half)
- New World (Grand line, 2nd half)
- Left Calm Belt
- Right Calm Belt
9 Mountains:
With the remaining 4 yet to be seen.
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2I would argue that, since the redline is one continuous mass of land, it wouldn't be considered a mountain. Possibly a mountain range at best, but more like a really high continent otherwise. – Thebluefish Mar 20 '15 at 17:33
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@Thebluefish Actually, although it's a single mass of land, it has high areas, low areas and certain parts are considered to be 'islands' that in fact have their own climates, just like those along the grand line. – Pharap Mar 20 '15 at 20:53
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@Mintri Both reverse mountain and the mountain marijois is located on are a part of the red line, but they're the most significant because they exist where the grand line crosses the red line. – Pharap Mar 20 '15 at 20:53
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@Mintri I enjoyed and upvoted both answers, but I was indeed looking for an in-universe answer, that's why I accepted this one. Doesn't mean yours was wrong though. – Peter Raeves Apr 30 '15 at 10:22
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@PeterRaeves but this answer is nowhere proofed right and as Pharap said, more of a joke answer than a real one. I thought this network has the goal to be as correct as possible – Mintri May 05 '15 at 07:26
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@Mintri ofcourse it is. But unless zoro tells us himself this seems to be a legit answer as Pharap mentiond the 8 seas previously mentioned in one piece and 5 (out of 9) mentioned mountains. I dont see how one could be more correct than that (unless he wrote all 9 mountains). Or am i missing something? – Peter Raeves May 05 '15 at 07:50
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@PeterRaeves hm okay, we enter the realm of interpretation now :D IMO an answer should be more reasoned and proofed by sources. also in a logic ways it doesn't make any sense for zorro to refere to any in universe places which some of them he never saw when all other attacks are clearly reffered to religions things. Do ou really think, oda would break this rule after 18 years? – Mintri May 05 '15 at 08:02
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@Mintri I guess. I completely agree oda refers to bhuddism, while Zoro might not cos I dont remember buddhism being specifically mentioned. But since this is a community driven site, ill unaccept and let the people decide which answer they like best. – Peter Raeves May 05 '15 at 08:37
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That and tbh when I asked the question I was just curious about the geography of the OP world, not about Oda's symbolism. But we will see. – Peter Raeves May 05 '15 at 13:41
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@PeterRaeves i never said that zorro is a buddhist, just that his attacks are named after some budhhistic references but not all, for example Asura is name after a Hindu demon. i don't know any explanation why zorro knows all these name references but oda knows them for sure und uses them for his attacks. i could make a list with all attacks that have religion references to prove them :D also when you are curious about the one piece world, then that answer would answer you're question, but i think that it is somehow asked unluckly then :D – Mintri May 06 '15 at 07:58
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@Mintri I know what you were saying. The point is that in-universe Buddhism has not been recognised as a religion despite the fact it is referenced by Zoro's attacks and Sengoku's Epithet. The same for Hinduism. The OP said that he was after an in-universe explanation, and the attack names' true origins can't be easily explained in-universe. Besides the true explanations for all the references in Zoro's attacks can be found on the Wiki: http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Santoryu – Pharap May 06 '15 at 22:41
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Nine mountains and eight seas ［九山八海］ ( kusen-hakkai): The mountains and seas that constitute the world, according to ancient Indian cosmology. The nine mountains are Mount Sumeru at the center of the world and eight concentric mountain ranges that surround it. Eight concentric seas separate these mountain ranges. According to The Dharma Analysis Treasury, the eight circular mountain ranges are, from the innermost out, Yugamdhara, Īshādhāra, Khadiraka, Sudarshana, Ashvakarna, Vinataka, Nimimdhara, and Chakravāda-parvata. All these mountain ranges are made of gold except the outermost, Chakravāda-parvata, also known as the Iron Encircling Mountains, which is made of iron. Mount Sumeru and the eight mountain ranges are each separated from one another by a sea. The distance between Mount Sumeru and Mount Yugamdhara is eighty thousand yojanas. The inner seven seas are of fresh water, while the outermost sea, just inside the iron mountain range, is salty. In this sea are four continents—Pūrvavideha in the east, Jambudvīpa in the south, Aparagodānīya in the west, and Uttarakuru in the north. See also four continents.
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